I am asked every week if it makes sense to repair 15 to 20 year old swimming pool heat pumps. Since I come from a service background it gave me great pleasure to keep pool heating equipment running efficiently for as long as possible if the repair is reasonable. I was thrifty property managers best friend when I could make a long term repair instead of replacing equipment for a reasonable cost. I was never a fan of replacing good running equipment with higher efficiency models as the payback was usually a long time and my customers could hopefully invest their money elsewhere for better returns. When there is a big repair on an old piece of swimming pool heating equipment then I am all for getting the highest efficiency (COP) new models so that they will have the lowest electric bills. Things are a bit different now that old heat pumps made before 2010 use the discontinued Freon 22. If you have a bad Freon leak maybe it is time to get a new heat pump instead of paying for expensive new or reclaimed Freon 22 or paying to convert the heat pump to a newer Freon. You also want service to be easy for mechanics down the road who might not know what was done to the old heat pump. Also some utilities are giving large rebates for new swimming pool heat pumps so that makes the decision harder if money is available for higher efficiency equipment. PSEG on Long Island in New York is giving $600.00 in 2021 for many new heat pumps swaps and installs. You need an authorized contractor to do the job to get the rebate, but I am told it is simple for them to get approved and the contractor even gets $100.00 for their trouble. So if you are thinking of repairing or replacing your heat pump and are not sure what to do just send me an e-mail or text and I will try to help out. Recently I had a guy with an old 17 year old Kopec 650 with a rotary knob thermostat that failed. He put in a new digital board from a new heat pump and now has an upgraded digital heat pump for another few seasons. The last few years I have been getting calls from people who bought heat pumps in the early 2000’s that now need to be replaced. Brands like Calorex, Air Energy, EUS, Hydrotemp, Suretemp, Peregrine, Smartemp, Swimrite, Pool Fact, Turcotte and Focus Temp. The owner of Peregrine was a buddy of mine. He designed some amazing heat pumps. One of his would heat and cool the pool. Heat and cool the house. And also heat the domestic hot water. He was a green kind of guy that was ahead of his time. Many of the old heat pump didn’t use titanium heat exchangers and didn’t last long if the pool chemistry was off. If one did last 18 years then you know the pool owner was on top of their PH and kept the pool chemicals just right. Titanium solved a lot of problems except for them freezing with water in them in the winter. Usually I tell people to keep the filter pump on 24 hours a day if you are going to get a freeze and the pool isn’t yet shut down for the winter. Last season my customers in Texas couldn’t do that because they had a deep freeze and also lost the power to run the water pump. In those cases you have to run out and drain the heat pump ASAP. Most of them had other more pressing problems though like pipes breaking in their walls and the homes getting too cold. So if your heat pump is not running let me know and we can troubleshoot a bit to see it it might be an easy fix.
Have a great season,
Best,
Marcus
Swimming pool heat pumps and pool heaters should bring happiness and less stress into your life. You should be able to enjoy your warm tropical water without worrying about repairing your heat pump. It is a machine though and sometimes you have to have it serviced. Here are some tips if your pool heater is not heating.
1: Is your pool heat pump running at all? Look to see if the digital display is lite up and displaying a message. Many times the pool heater will tell you what is wrong. If you hear no sound and see no display then look to see that your circuit breaker tripped off and replace your fuse if you have one.
2: If you see low flow on the display then see if your filter is clean and all the valves are in the right position.
3: Sometimes you need to turn the breaker on and off to reset the heat pump if it had experienced multiple water flow failures.
4: The pool heat pump is running and the pool isn’t heating up then see if the discharge air temperature is about 10 degrees cooler than the outside air. That shows the compressor is running.
5: If everything seems to be working you might need to run the filter pump longer or put a blanket on the pool.
6: Text me at 360 348 7574 to tell me what is happening and I might be able to help troubleshoot.
7: If there is water draining from the heat pump and it is running that should be normal condensation. If you have any doubt then put a chlorine test strip in the water to see if chlorine. If chlorine then you have a leak. No chlorine then it is normal.
8: If also might have shut down to a cold night below 50 degrees. Give it some time to warm in the sun. Some low-temperature heat pumps will go into the 30’s.
We are here for you if you have any questions on how to troubleshoot your pool heat pump.
Best,
Marcus
I have been thinking about writing something about the Bahamas for a couple of weeks. First I want to say that I and my family are sending positive thoughts to the people who have been affected by the storm in the Bahamas and the Carolinas too here in the USA. Most of what I know about the Bahamas is concerning my customers and friends swimming pool heaters; although I spent some time in Nassau. Over the last 20 years, we have shipped 100’s of swimming pool heat pumps to the Bahamas. Some to famous entertainers. In Florida, the local codes say that you have to strap the heat pumps to the cement slab in case of hurricanes. We always support that you install your equipment to satisfy the rules where you live. There is always a reason. Strapping the heat pump is also good to keep the heat pump from moving in case something bumps into it and it moves and then cracks the PVC pipes causing a pool water leak. I have seen that backfire though if a customer has a lawn service with fast-moving tractors that hit a strapped heat pump and it doesn’t move but the impact then punctures the coil and you lose all your freon and probably the whole heat pump. Maybe if you have that sort of lawn service you can put a barrier to protect the swimming pool heat pump and your home air-conditioner? I also have thought that if you are strapping your heat pump down to stop it from flying away, then Volkswagen Beetles would also be flying and you would have much more to worry about than your pool heater disappearing. I went to Homestead Florida after Hurricane Andrew to do animal rescue work and saw cars that had flown in the wind. I remember also that all the homes were green. It seems that the vegetation hitting the concrete block houses exploded on contact and the chlorophyll in the leaves stained everything green that it touched. It was a bizarre sight that I hope not to experience again. I have lots of pool buddies in the Florida Keys that have gone through hurricanes. I have photos of pool heaters that were 1/2 underwater that still ran after the skys cleared. I would suggest to everyone anywhere near an ocean to wash the salt off their outside mechanical equipment regularly. Turn the power off first though and if you have any doubts what can get wet please ask your mechanical, HVAC or swimming pool contractor. When I lived a mile from the beach I would spray the outside coil of my home heat pump with a garden hose every month to try to prevent the coil from rotting. That can prolong a heat pumps life from 5 years to 15 years or more in very corrosive salt air or pollution type of environments. Most of my pool heat pumps are plastic with stainless steel fittings and the freon coils have been coated to protect from salt, but it still can’t hurt. Every storm that puts people in harm’s way reminds me of how fragile and tenuous life is and how selling pool heaters is not that important in the bigger scheme of things.
Be safe out there. Be nice to each other. The most important thing is you and your families safety. We are rooting for you.
Cheers,
Marcus
I received a call yesterday from a pastor at a bible camp requesting parts to repair his swimming pool heat pump. 15 years ago he had bought a swimming pool heat pump made by one of the largest pool equipment company in the United States. At that time they were happy to see him buy it from his computer. The camp is on a tight budget and they needed all the money possible for activities and quality counselors. He did his homework and bought what he thought was a good heater. It proved to be a good choice at that time as it lasted for many years. Recently he had to replace it due to age and the fact that his camp is near the ocean and subjected to salt and harsh weather. He bought another heater made by the same manufacturer because the old heat pump had given him good service and he liked to stay with what worked. He didn’t buy it from me as I would have advised otherwise now. The new heat pump failed quickly after he bought it. He called the factory to arrange warranty service as it was well within the time period printed in his owner’s manual. They asked him if he had put the heat pump in himself and he answered truthfully, that yes he did glue the pipes and set the unit, but he had a licensed electrician transfer the wires from the old one to the new one. The well-know factory then thanked him for calling and told him that they were voiding his warranty. Their new business model is that now only want local pool companies to install heat pumps. That is their new marketing strategy to get more pool contractor business. There is no school that gives diplomas for gluing 2 PVC pipes and putting a heat pump on a hand truck to set it on a concrete slab. He was loyal to the company for 15 years, and bible camp or not, they treated him with no respect or courtesy. Broke my heart to hear this story. Especially that kids are involved. I ordered him the parts, but that will take time and the camp pool is cold during their short camp season. If you want to know what company it was, give me a call. It seems some other companies are looking for lame excuses to void warranties too. I won’t let that happen to you. I know which companies want your business and then they stand behind their warranties because they care about you and also their reputation. Get a heat pump made in North America with a long warranty that has high efficiency and a good reliability record and you will have the highest chance of many years of trouble-free service. It just so happens that I know a few. 🙂
I get calls like this almost every day. Swimming pool heat pumps should last 10 to 15 years. 10 years ago many pool heaters used the old discontinued freon 22 refrigerant. I come from a service background. It is natural for me to try to repair my customers old heat pumps if I could do it for a reasonable amount that made sense. Unfortunately I can’t travel all over the world to repair heat pumps for my customers. I took a call from a heat pump owner who had a 15 year old pool heater that had a Freon leak. Some copper pipes were touching and the vibration of the heater caused the pipes to rub, and then leak Freon from the hole. That usually is an easy fix, but this time it wasn’t in his best interest I thought after asking him a few questions about his plans for the pool. He was going to live there for the next 8 years until he retired and then sell the house. The pool was important to him now as he used the pool regularly to exercise. I suggested a new heat pump as then he would be under warranty for parts and labor and then when he sold the house the heat pump would still be under a parts warranty. Also he would have a heat pump with the new Freon that any HVAC heating or cooling company would have on their truck if he ever needed service. Everyone has different needs. If someone wants to repair a really old heater and needs parts we can help them find then even if the heat pump is no longer manufactured. I have listed some current models and older discontinued heat pumps that are still out there so that if you have one and want to keep it going longer then I will try to help you do that.
Have a great swimming season.
Best,
Marcus Miller
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RHEEM M6450TI-E
RHEEM M6450TI-E-F5
RAYPAK R8450TI-E
RUUD D6450TI-E
RAYPAK R5350TI-E
RAYPAK R5350TI-A
RAYPAK R6350TI-E-HC
RAYPAK R6350TI-E
RHEEM M8450TI-E
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ULTRATEMP 460932
PERFECTEMP P6350TI-E
RHEEMM5350TI-A
RHEEM M6450TI-E
ULTRATEMP 460935
ULTRATEMP 460933
RHEEM M5350TI-E
RHEEM M6350TI-A
RHEEM M6350TI-E-HC
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RAYPAK R8353TI-E
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RHEEM M8353TI-E
RHEEM M8350TI-A
RHEEM M8350TI-E
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GULFSTREAM HE110-R-A
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GULFSTREAM HI110-R-A
GUARDIAN LE110-R-A
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HEATPRO HP21404T
EASYTEMP HCB125BTA
HEATMASTER HML125TA
EASYTEMP HCB110BTA
HEATMASTER HML110TA
EASYTEMP HCB65BTA
HEAT MASTER HML50TA
HAYWARD HP50TA
RUUD D5350TI-A
RUUD D5350TI-E
RUUD D6350TI-A
RUUD D6350TI-E
RUUD D6350TI-E-HC
RUUD D8350TI-A
RUUD D8350TI-E
RUUD D8353TI-E
PERFECTEMP P6350TI-E-PD
RAYPAK R6350TI-E-PD
RHEEM M6350TI-E-PD
RUUD D6350TI-E-PD
SUNRUNNER SUN-1100E
SUNRUNNER SUN-1100
SUNRUNNER SUN-1100ETC
SUNRUNNER SUN-1300
SUNRUNNER SUN-1300TCE
SUNRUNNER SUN-1300HC
SUNRUNNER SUN-1300HCTCE
RUUD D8354TI-A
RHEEM M8354TI-A
RAYPAK R8353TI-E-HC
RAYPAK R8350TI-E-HC
RHEEM M8353TI-E-HC
RUUD D8353TI-E-HC
RHEEM M8350TI-E-HC
RUUD D8350TI-E-HC
BUILT RIGHT BR110
BUILT RIGHT BR115
BUILT RIGHT BR135
RAYPAK R2350TI-E
RHEEM M2350TI-E
COMFORT SWIM CS150-R-A
COMFORT SWIM CS125-T-A
COMFORT SWIM CS125-R-A
COMFORT SWIM CS110-R-A
COMFORT SWIM CS90-R-A
RAYPAK PS10353TI-E-HC
RAYPAK PS10355TI-E-HC
RAYPAK PS10354TI-E-HC
RAYPAK PS10355TI-E-HC
RAYPAK R3350TI-E
RHEEM M3350TI-E
RUUD D3350TI-E
RAYPAK R4350TI-E
RHEEM M4350TI-E
RUUD D4350TI-E
BUILT RIGHT BR100-1
WEATHERKING W6350TI-E
PERFECTEMP P6353TI-E
PERFECTEMP P6353TI-E-HC
RAYPAK R6353TI-E
RAYPAK R6353TI-E-HC
RHEEM M6353TI-E
RHEEM M6353TI-E-HC
RUUD D6353TI-E
RUUD D6353TI-E-HC
FLUIDRA USA ASTRAL POOL AHP-100
BUILT RIGHT BR80-1 XW
BUILT RIGHT BR100-1 S7
BUILT RIGHT BR115-1 S7
BUILT RIGHT BR115-1 XW
BUILT RIGHT BR135-1 S7
BUILT RIGHT BR135-1 XW
SUMMIT SUM45TA
EASYTEMP HCB95BTA
HEATMASTER HML95TA
HEATPRO HP21004T
RAYPAK R4350TI-E-PD
RHEEM M4350TI-E-PD
RUUD D4350TI-E-PD
FLUIDRA USA ASTRAL POOL AHP-
FLUIDRA USA ASTRAL POOL AHP-125
FLUIDRA USA ASTRAL POOL AHP-125HC
FLUIDRA USA ASTRAL POOL AHP-150
BUILT RIGHT BR100-1 XW
WEATHERKING W8360TI-E
RAYPAK RS5350TI-E-QT
RAYPAK MS5350TI-E-QT
RAYPAK RS6350TI-E-QT
RAYPAK MS6350TI-E-QT
EASYTEMP HCB140BTA
RAYPAK RS8350TI-E-QT
RHEEM MS8350TI-E-QT
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THERMEAU TH200-3
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THERMEAU S55
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RHEEM M5350TI-E-F5
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RHEEM M6350TI-E-F5
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RHEEM M8350TI-E-F5
THERMEAU P55
THERMEAU P65
THERMEAU P125
THERMEAU P140
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NAUTYL PHCP110
NAUTYL PHCP50
ECOSTEALTH ECOPRO120TI
ECOSTEALTH ECOPRO140HCTI
RAYPAK PS9350TI-E-HC
RAYPAK PS9353TI-E-HC
TRANE TR21474T
JACUZZI J-H127C
SUMMIT SUMXL112
SUMMIT SUMXL140
NAUTYL PHCP65
RAYPAK R8354TI-A
RAYPAK R5450TI-E
RAYPAK R5450TI-E-F5
RHEEM M5450TI-E
RHEEM M5450TI-E-F5
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RAYPAK R6450TI-E
RAYPAK R6450TI-E-F5
RHEEM M6450TI-E
RHEEM M6450TI-E-F5
RUUD D6450TI-E
RAYPAK R8450TI-E
RAYPAK R8450TI-E-F5
RHEEM M8450TI-E
RHEEM M8450TI-E-F5
RUUD D8450TI-E
TROPICAL 090AHDSBPH
TROPICAL 055AHDSBLH
TROPICAL 075AHDSBLH
TROPICAL 115AHDSBPH
TROPICAL 135AHDSBPH
AQUATHERM AT075AHDSBND
LEISURE TEMP (LT) LT0400AHDSBND
LEISURE TEMP (LT) LT0600AHDSBND
LEISURE TEMP (LT) LT0700AHDSBND
LEISURE TEMP (LT) LT0800AHDSBND
LEISURE TEMP (LT) LT1000AHDSBND
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THERMEAU TH105
THERMEAU S105
THERMEAU P105
BUILT RIGHT BR105-1 XW
BUILT RIGHT BR105-1 S7
THERMEAU TH85
THERMEAU P85
THERMEAU S85
RAYPAK R8450TI-E-HC
RHEEM M8450TI-E-HC
RUUD D8450TI-E-HC
SUMMIT SUM8TAC
SUMMIT SUM55TA
RAYPAK R6450TI-E-PD
RHEEM M6450TI-E-PD
RUUD D6450TI-E-PD
RAYPAK R6450TI-E-HC
RHEEM M6450TI-E-HC
RUUD D6450TI-E-HC
WEATHERKING W6350TI-A
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JANDY JE1500T
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JANDY JE2000T
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JANDY JE2500T
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JANDY JE3000T3
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JANDY JE3000TR
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JANDY JE3000TR3
SUMMIT SUM25TAC
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PHNIX PASRW070-U-P-BP
RAYPAK R2450TI-E
RHEEM M2450TI-E
RAYPAK R3450TI-E
RHEEM M3450TI-E
RAYPAK R4450TI-E
RHEEM M4450TI-E
OMNISWIM OS140AHDSBPA
OMNISWIM OS115AHDSBPA
ET165ARDSBPA ECOTHERM ET165ARDSBPA
OS140AHDSBPA OMNISWIM OS140AHDSBPA
OS115AHDSBPA OMNISWIM OS115AHDSBPA
ET120ARDSBPA ECOTHERM ET120ARDSBPA
ET135AHDSBNA ECOTHERM ET135AHDSBNA
ET110AHDSBNA ECOTHERM ET110AHDSBNA
ET095AHDSBNA ECOTHERM ET095AHDSBNA
ET075AHDSBNA ECOTHERM ET075AHDSBNA
ET055AHDSBNA ECOTHERM ET055AHDSBNA
SUMMIT SUM45TAC
HEATMASTER HML140TA
SUMMIT SUM3TAC
SUMMIT SUM5TAC
EASYTEMP HCB112BTA
TRANE TR21174T
Jacuzzi JHP140
RUUD D2450TI-E
RUUD D3450TI-E
RUUD D4450TI-E
ECOSTEALTH OPTIMIZEP120TI
ECOSTEALTH OPTIMIZEP140HCTI
PHNIX PASRW030-P-BP2
PHNIX PASRW040-P-BP2
Sunblazer (SB) SB128AHDSBLA
NAUTYL PHCP65A
NAUTYL PHCP50A
Trevinium HP75TREE
Aqua comfort technologies
ACT – 1100T5S
ACT – 1250 HCT 6S
ACT-1250T6S
ACT-1500T7S
ACT – 1750T7S
ACT – 7504TS
Aqua Pro systems
ECO 600
ECO pro 120 TI
Eco pro 140 HCTI
J- H127C
Pro – 1100
Pro – 1100 E
Pro – 1100 ETC
Pro – 1300
Pro – 1300 H- C
Pro- 1300 HC
Pro- 1300 HCTCE
Pro – 1300 TCE
Pro 1400
Pro 1400 H-C
Sun – 1100
Sun-1100E
Sun- 1100 ETC
Sun – 1300
Sun- 1300 HC
Sun- 1300 HCTCE
Sun – 1300 TCE
VIGOH77
Built right pool heaters
BR100-1
BR100-1S7
BR100-1 XW
BR110-1
BR115-1
BR115-1 S7
BR115-1 XW
BR80-1 XW
Hayward Pool Products
BHP21254T
BHP31204T
HCB110BTA
HCB125BTA
HCB140BTA
HCB50BTA
HCB65BTA
HCB95BTA
HML110TA
HML125TA
HML50TA
HML95TA
HP21004T
HP21124T
HP21254T
HP31204T
HP40B
HP50A
HP50B
HP50HA
HP55BEE
HP55TR
HP65B
HP65B1
HP65BEE
HP75A
PHCP110
PHCP50
PHCP65
PHCP80
SUM25TA
SUM3TA
SUM45TA
SUM5TA
SUM8TA
SUMXL112
SUMXL140
TR21174T
TR21474T
Nirvana Chauffeur Piscine
F100BB-6A1HA
F100CP-6A1HA
F100GG-6A1HA
F100GT-6A1HA
F120BB-6A1HA
F120CP-6A1HA
F120GG-6A1HA
F120GT-6A1HA
F140CP-6A1HA
F140GG-6A1HA
F140GT-6A1HA
F50BB-6A1HA
F50CP-6A1HA
F50GG-6A1HA
F50GT-6A1HA
F65BB-6A1H
F65CP-6A1HA
F65GT-6A1HA
F80BB-6A1HA
F80CP-6A1HA
F80GG-6A1HA
F80GT-6A1HA
FC120VF-6A1HA
Pentair Aquatic Systems
460928
460929
460930
460931
460932
460933
460934
460935
460937
460958
460959
460960
460961
469962
460963
469964
460965
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